i594 work around?

[Godspyro]

Come on guys I know you want to shoot me down
9.41.010
(9) "Firearm" means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder.
(10) "Gun" has the same meaning as firearm.

If a "firearm" is missing a bolt, slide etc it would not be capable of fireing a projectile and would not be concidered a firearm per state law correct?

Sounds like stripped lowers are no problem at all, firearm "parts" that could be assembled into a firearm quickly would technically be legal as well. It doesn't matier that federal law defines it as because it would happen in washington.

Come on BB, tell me I'm wrong!

[Flawlessfoose]

I don't really want to be the one to find out first hand, but I think your definitely on to something here !!

Come on BB, tell him he's wrong !

[JasonH]

Come on guys I know you want to shoot me down

So let’s say I have a MAK-90, and I go and remove the bolt and piston assembly from it. Making tow groups of parts on my table

By your rational, I could sell the two groups of that firearm as parts because neither in their disassembled state can fire a projectile?
But, would it need to be two separate transactions?

[Call Turner]

The transaction with the serial # still has to do ffl paper work .

[Flawlessfoose]

The transaction with the serial # still has to do ffl paper work .

Where does it say that in the law ?

[crazyjoe]

Laws suck but are laws

[Orphan]

Come on guys I know you want to shoot me down
9.41.010
(9) "Firearm" means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder.
(10) "Gun" has the same meaning as firearm.

If a "firearm" is missing a bolt, slide etc it would not be capable of fireing a projectile and would not be concidered a firearm per state law correct?

Sounds like stripped lowers are no problem at all, firearm "parts" that could be assembled into a firearm quickly would technically be legal as well. It doesn't matier that federal law defines it as because it would happen in washington.

Come on BB, tell me I'm wrong!

I think you are on to something as long as it is a private sale with in the state of Washington and all other federal laws were obeyed. I will do some research.

[thumpar]

The transaction with the serial # still has to do ffl paper work .

But that is only over state lines or when purchasing new from an FFL and is a federal law not state. It seems that 594 doesn't have a real good definition of "firearm".

[Orphan]

I can't find any reason what Godspyro stated would be unlawful. I will say that IMHO if I sold you a disassembled firearm that would not fly. IMHO If I sold you an AR lower and you then went and purchased the rest of the firearm from other sources that would be lawful under current State law. Just to be clear here we are just discussing state law not giving advice or planning on doing any of what we are discussing.

[Godspyro]

Of course we wouldn't make recommendations, after all if someone sold a Powder actuated tool or a potato gun that would be a clear violation of state law, but if I sold you an ar15 that was unable to fire a projectile (missing bcg) that would violate no law, assuming both parties are wa citizens and the transfer takes place in the great state of Washington.

[Orphan]

Of course we wouldn't make recommendations, after all if someone sold a Powder actuated tool or a potato gun that would be a clear violation of state law, but if I sold you an ar15 that was unable to fire a projectile (missing bcg) that would violate no law, assuming both parties are wa citizens and the transfer takes place in the great state of Washington.

Agreed if the BCG was purchased from another source.

[Godspyro]

Bring a friend with you, I can gift them a bcg

[pacnw]

Of course we wouldn't make recommendations, after all if someone sold a Powder actuated tool or a potato gun that would be a clear violation of state law, but if I sold you an ar15 that was unable to fire a projectile (missing bcg) that would violate no law, assuming both parties are wa citizens and the transfer takes place in the great state of Washington.

Agreed if the BCG was purchased from another source.

And what makes this needed? Do you feel a transaction for the bcg as well as the "remainder" of the firearm would be considered a single firearm transaction?

2 bills of sale and 2 monetary transactions and maybe go as far as "different" dates on the bills of sale.

[Orphan]

Of course we wouldn't make recommendations, after all if someone sold a Powder actuated tool or a potato gun that would be a clear violation of state law, but if I sold you an ar15 that was unable to fire a projectile (missing bcg) that would violate no law, assuming both parties are wa citizens and the transfer takes place in the great state of Washington.

Agreed if the BCG was purchased from another source.

And what makes this needed? Do you feel a transaction for the bcg as well as the "remainder" of the firearm would be considered a single firearm transaction?

2 bills of sale and 2 monetary transactions and maybe go as far as "different" dates on the bills of sale.

The difference would be selling a disassembled firearm vs selling firearms parts

[Godspyro]

Of course we wouldn't make recommendations, after all if someone sold a Powder actuated tool or a potato gun that would be a clear violation of state law, but if I sold you an ar15 that was unable to fire a projectile (missing bcg) that would violate no law, assuming both parties are wa citizens and the transfer takes place in the great state of Washington.

Agreed if the BCG was purchased from another source.

And what makes this needed? Do you feel a transaction for the bcg as well as the "remainder" of the firearm would be considered a single firearm transaction?

2 bills of sale and 2 monetary transactions and maybe go as far as "different" dates on the bills of sale.

The difference would be selling a disassembled firearm vs selling firearms parts

If we are talking a federal definition of firearm yes but but the state does not define a firearm as something that may someday fire a projectile,
if I sell you some abs pipe with fittings, a flint sparker and some hair spray have I sold you a disabled firearm or a bunch of parts?