Stop paying $50 a brick

[Semper-Fi 1970]

"The Mechanic This is not acceptable behavior. I suggest you refer to the board rules!

Absolutely no name calling and be respectful at all times!

That member has been dealt with for comments on another thread. Will be taking a vacation...

[Godspyro]

Did anyone buy silver back in the 90s? Can you go ahead and sell it to me for $6 an oz? I bought some a couple years ago and would be happy to sell it for the $32/oz I paid for it.

Ammo is the same. It is a precious metal.

Now before anyone flames me my position let it be known that I have passed up big box retail 22lr and the only 22lr I have parted with was either a gift or a loan (they replace it when they find a good deal or this blows over)

That doss not count the little bit the kids or I sent down range.

[SMITTYII]

Did anyone buy silver back in the 90s? Can you go ahead and sell it to me for $6 an oz? I bought some a couple years ago and would be happy to sell it for the $32/oz I paid for it.

Ammo is the same. It is a precious metal.

Now before anyone flames me my position let it be known that I have passed up big box retail 22lr and the only 22lr I have parted with was either a gift or a loan (they replace it when they find a good deal or this blows over)

That doss not count the little bit the kids or I sent down range.

Good Point!
I never thought of it that way! Puts a new perspective on things!

[Kman]

I hope some fool goes out and buys a ton of .22 then gets stuck with it, now that would be funny. The real shame of this is there are a lot of family's that can't afford to go shooting now because some jack @ss wants to make a buck. That is fine I suppose but what goes around comes around and I am sure most people will remember who the ones are that are contributing to the problem. I for one will and any item that I sell will be three times as much for them then anyone else on the site.

GP I understand what you are saying and I do see your point but it doesn't mean that as a group we can't put a stop to it by just not purchasing the high priced ammo, I know it is a pipe dream but it would work if there weren't a demand for it. Think about it, who is going to want to go to Walmart at 3:30 in the morning to buy .22 and then just turn around and sell it for what they paid since no one will pay a higher price, then little Johnny and little Suzy can go out with their parents and shoot their little crickets or rascals and life would be great again.

[Godspyro]

[quote="Kman"]I hope some fool goes out and buys a ton of .22 then gets stuck with it, now that would be funny. /quote]

Remember the guys trying to sell p-mags for $30 after prices came back down? the guys buying up all the 22lr will be there someday soon.

[nivlak]

I hope some fool goes out and buys a ton of .22 then gets stuck with it, now that would be funny. /quote]

Remember the guys trying to sell p-mags for $30 after prices came back down? the guys buying up all the 22lr will be there someday soon.

Not soon enough.


Or insider tips?!?

[Godspyro]

I hope some fool goes out and buys a ton of .22 then gets stuck with it, now that would be funny. /quote]

Remember the guys trying to sell p-mags for $30 after prices came back down? the guys buying up all the 22lr will be there someday soon.

Not soon enough.


Or insider tips?!?

I wish........er I mean YES know a guys who knows the owners of Winchester, Remington, and Blazer and hey says they are sitting on billions of rounds just to they can screw the hoarders when they dump it on the market.....

[RegularGuy]

Sooooo.. Does anyone on here know exactly why there isnt any 22lr left? What was the major event to make this happen? How come its just 22lr and not 25acp or any other caliber? Was it all the school shooting? But the shooters never used a 22?? Please someone tell me what spurred this becuase i cant figure it out. Thanks

[Nievo]

It isn't any one thing, here is a very good read that explains a lot of the shortage.

http://sierrabullets.wordpress.com/2014 ... mmunition/

[wagunguy]

Soon there will be pallets of bulk .22 waiting to be bought. In other parts of the country they have an excess of .22 ammo. Just a matter of time before Black Sheep gets a pile of it! All you scalpers better beware because you'll be sitting on a pile of .22 ammo!

[scrappy]

Soon there will be pallets of bulk .22 waiting to be bought. In other parts of the country they have an excess of .22 ammo. Just a matter of time before Black Sheep gets a pile of it! All you scalpers better beware because you'll be sitting on a pile of .22 ammo!

Amen brother!! I SO long for the day these scalpers loose their shirts because of their willingness to take advantage of the situation. I am all for capitalism and I begrudge no man the ability to make a decent buck, but I liken this to someone in Florida who bought all the batteries for whatever price then trippled the it to resell them to folks getting ready for an approaching huricane.

[Blacklion66]

Their was a time when I considered gas at .30 cents over priced. I stopped smoking when the price hit .90 cents a pack.

What was the price of a 1964 Ford mustang? What is the price today?

What was the price of 22 long rifles 1964?

Supply and demand is and always will be rule #1

Several grand-kids can make a brick disappear better than Houdini

you all have a great day, and if any scalpers happen to have a few bricks of CCI or Wolf I would make a offer

[Bob R]

Their was a time when I considered gas at .30 cents over priced. I stopped smoking when the price hit .90 cents a pack.

What was the price of a 1964 Ford mustang? What is the price today?

What was the price of 22 long rifles 1964?

Supply and demand is and always will be rule #1

Several grand-kids can make a brick disappear better than Houdini

you all have a great day, and if any scalpers happen to have a few bricks of CCI or Wolf I would make a offer

Doesn't hold water.

In 2008 the average price of a gallon of gas was 3.45, it then dipped down and in 2013 was 3.69.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_gnd ... pgal_a.htm

In 2008 the MSRP of a Mustang ~ was 26,240. ( http://www.cars.com/ford/mustang/2008/ ) In 2013 it was ~ 22-26,200. ( http://www.cars.com/ford/mustang/2008/)

In 2008 22 ammo was about 4-5 cents a round, some a little less, some more. Now the average is running closer to 7-8 cents a round from retailers and more like 10-11 cents a round from "scalpers".

I don't think much of anything has gone up as much as 22 ammo in the last few years, and with scalpers often seeing a chance to make a profit they are charging, and getting, that 10-11 cents a round whether they pay that much or not.

That is what makes them scalpers, they are outside what most people consider a comfortable price for 22 ammo. As long as people continue to feed their greed. they will keep marking it up. When will you call quits on 22 ammo 15 cents a round, 20 cents a round, what will it take?

I don't even know if I would call them scalpers, scalpers normally have a large quantity of goods to move, like tickets. Gougers on the other hand take what they can get hold of and price them at a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. You know, like the guy that hits wallyworld in the AM for his 3 boxes of 22 and then turns around and has them posted for sale on here by noon for double what he just paid for them. Yea, those types are gougers rather than scalpers, IMO.

bob

[albin25]

What scalpers are doing to the price of 22 ammo can't be compared to the price of gas in years past to the price of gas (or anything else) now.
Unless, someone buying almost all the gas from local gas stations for $3.50/gal and re-selling it at $7-8/gal was the sort of "today" price you're referring to. The real "today" price of Federal bulk 22lr is 17.95 for 550 rounds (bought some today)...OR...you can buy the same thing from a SGT member for the "reduced" price of $45.

Basically, it cooks down to this...if one believes that it's ethical to buy something they don't need just to keep it off the shelves for the soul purpose of selling it, at jacked up prices, to those who do need it...they'll have no problem with the current state of affairs, maybe even try to justify it.

"Do unto others" or "Put the screws unto others" ... I pick the first one.

[720.8597]

Main Entry: fair market value
Function: noun
Date: 1901
: a price at which buyers and sellers with a reasonable knowledge of pertinent facts and not acting under any compulsion are willing to do business
Merriam-Webster

[albin25]

.....not acting under any compulsion are willing to do business

If scalpers strip much of the available supplies, so that those who comprise the legitimate shooting market's buyers ARE compelled to purchase from scalpers at exorbitant prices or do without even minimal use of retail priced product. That's IF they can manage to locate some before scalpers snap it up.
On the bright side.....if you are desperate for ammo and absolutely must have it fast..... If you got the cash but not the patience....they have the goods.

Like the old saying, "fast, easy, or cheap...you can only pick 2"

I wonder just what percentage of the 22lr buyers are buying their ammo primarily from scalpers......10%......5%.....30%....?

[Bob R]

Main Entry: fair market value
Function: noun
Date: 1901
: a price at which buyers and sellers with a reasonable knowledge of pertinent facts and not acting under any compulsion are willing to do business
Merriam-Webster

I help you with your definitions;

prof·it·eer (prŏf′ĭ-tîr′)
n.
One who makes excessive profits on goods in short supply.
intr.v. prof·it·eered, prof·it·eer·ing, prof·it·eers
To make excessive profits on goods in short supply.


bob

[Kman]

I help you with your definitions;

prof·it·eer (prŏf′ĭ-tîr′)
n.
One who makes excessive profits on goods in short supply.
intr.v. prof·it·eered, prof·it·eer·ing, prof·it·eers
To make excessive profits on goods in short supply.

Finally a true definition of what is going on, notice to all of the .22 gougers nowhere does it say capitalism in the definition.

[atomiccat2002]

I also do not like scalpers, but all I would do is block them on here because if they are dishonest when selling 22lr I won't trust them selling guns on here either just block them and hope people stop buying at outrageous prices, but I guess some people love their 22lr so much they pay it, I would rather buy a box of 9mm tul ammo @ 10$ than pay for overpriced 22lr

[mcroberts307]

Problem is that anybody could buy some 22's on there way home after work if it was not for the scalpers.