Well said.ron wrote: It's never bothered me that people displayed crap or that some of them were grumpy old men who talked to their buddies all day. There's always been good stuff for sale mixed in with the overpriced whatever but too many people are so completely focused on the "injustice" of the lousy deals that they miss the good deals. Also I've always enjoyed the shows and considered the cost of admission the cost of an afternoon's entertainment, better and less expensive than going to a movie.
Nah, it's easier to just complain and do all your buying over the internet. No need to even meet other gun enthusiasts.Doug Helton wrote:Ron , the cost of the tables is the cost of the venue spread over fewer table rents . I understand some people will never be happy and so be it but it seems to me if the majority of the people who complain would get one table a year it would be a move in the right direction of getting in some fresh blood and better pricing etc. At the rate we are going the show will not be able to remain at the fairgrounds due to cost and may cease to exist all together , it's all up to us if we want it to continue or not .
Exactly. The Gates/Allen/Bloomberg cabal is winning because we as a community are too short-sighted to oppose them by supporting each other IN SPITE of them.ron wrote:Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't considered that. I was thinking that the cost increases came first and then fewer people rented tables and then the shows started getting smaller rather than the other way around. but this is the first time I've heard of it and so my immediate reaction was to blame the organizers.Doug Helton wrote:Ron , the cost of the tables is the cost of the venue spread over fewer table rents . .
So maybe I-594 is actually what caused fewer people to attend these shows and that cause the price of the tables to go up. And that means more of us need to go to the shows unless we want to see them become something of the past when we had more freedom in this country and guns weren't blamed for crime. And like I said before, I like going to the shows better than going to a movie and the gun show still costs less.
Yup, and saving a couple of bucks is WAY more important than supporting a gathering of a bunch of "gun guys".ron wrote:Oh well. I guess some people would rather see fake guns in movies than real guns in real life and that's why the shows are dying.
IMO, even the "old farts" can probably teach people something if you just take the time to talk to them a little.
FWIW, I have also found that MOST posted prices on anything but ammo are negotiable if you just ask. For the most part people in this kind of venue EXPECT people to haggle them down and price things accordingly. It's part of the game, always has been. If your plan is to comparison shop the POSTED prices against the internet, you'll end up with your nose your nose out of joint at the "ridiculous" prices. BUT if you haggle your best price with a vendor FIRST you'll probably find that you can meet or beat an internet price. If not, fine, then move on.