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Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Bravery » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:29 pm

Hello,

I've been on here for a bit but haven''t reached out much. I started getting more into black guns over the last few months and have begun building a couple different AR's as a result of research and budgeting. I'm looking for a local shop that has lowers that aren't going to destroy my wallet. Ya, I get it everyone has to make a buck which I'm fine with but I don't need to spend $300+ on a lower since they're all mil-spec anyway. I'm looking into andersons but alas they're pretty much sold out everywhere I look. AIM and JSE both are out. I want to start this pistol build from the bottom up but having a hard time locating. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Badger » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:44 pm

I've had very good luck with Palmetto State Armory lowers. Every one of the "blems" that I've seen has been perfect, without any discernible blemishes of any kind whatsoever. Their lowers are the same manufacture as many others selling for twice the price.

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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Torakan » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:46 pm

After playing with these things for almost 30 yrs there really isn't munch difference between brands. That being said, I prefer a forged aluminum lower over the polymer ones. I'm not sure I really see an advantage of a billet lower over a regular forged one. Most of the reputable retailers in the area will offer a good product for a good price .
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Haynes and Sons Guns » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:35 pm

I have Andersons in Stock, PM or text (509)475-8125 for details.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Nievo » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:48 pm

I have and have used lowers from almost a dozen different manufacturers. Anderson are good and I have several, but they do have lapses in QQ from time to time. My favorites are Seekins and Umbrella Corporation. For the price I think Aero is a good go to. Billets aren't worth the price although they look cool. Also, stay away from Polymer, they have a tendency to crack around the buffer tube threads.

I haven't had much luck locally finding a decent price. Andersons you can find online for under $60 and even with shipping and transfer I usually still come in under $75. If you can find something local that isn't a Polymer for under $80 out the door right now I would jump on it.

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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Torakan » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:27 am

^Throw us a link Nievo! With shipping running about $9 and transfers costing $20, that's about $45 a lower. That's an incredible price!
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Nievo » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:02 pm

$54.99 each. Shipping was a flat $19.95 for 4 of them and my transfer only cost $30 for all 4. Key is to buy more then one or combine with other purchases. Or to go in with a couple friends to save shipping.

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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Haynes and Sons Guns » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:50 pm

Those are back ordered approx 3-4 weeks, and you have to order 4 to get them for $67.5 shipped plus tax and if you are buying from a retailer your ffl should be charging tax. I have them in stock for $75 and tax, buy more than 1 and i'll knock $5 off the total. Take one home tonight, no shipping, no transfer fee.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Nievo » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:30 am

Haynes and Sons Guns wrote:Those are back ordered approx 3-4 weeks, and you have to order 4 to get them for $67.5 shipped plus tax and if you are buying from a retailer your ffl should be charging tax. I have them in stock for $75 and tax, buy more than 1 and i'll knock $5 off the total. Take one home tonight, no shipping, no transfer fee.
$75 + tax isn't a horrible price locally.

Lol.....at paying tax for a FFL transfer.

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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Torakan » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:55 am

Haynes and Sons Guns wrote:Those are back ordered approx 3-4 weeks, and you have to order 4 to get them for $67.5 shipped plus tax and if you are buying from a retailer your ffl should be charging tax. I have them in stock for $75 and tax, buy more than 1 and i'll knock $5 off the total. Take one home tonight, no shipping, no transfer fee.
Sounds like the best deal so far! $75 +$6.53 sales tax is $81.53 out the door right?
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by thumpar » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:31 am

Nievo wrote:
Haynes and Sons Guns wrote:Those are back ordered approx 3-4 weeks, and you have to order 4 to get them for $67.5 shipped plus tax and if you are buying from a retailer your ffl should be charging tax. I have them in stock for $75 and tax, buy more than 1 and i'll knock $5 off the total. Take one home tonight, no shipping, no transfer fee.
$75 + tax isn't a horrible price locally.

Lol.....at paying tax for a FFL transfer.
If the FFL transfer is from a dealer they charge tax. If it is private party then there is no tax charged.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by toddSpokane » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:25 pm

Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
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Post by Nievo » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:38 pm

toddSpokane wrote:Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
Are you kidding me? Show me the tests to back that up. If the lower heats up that much and malfunctions due to extended firing then you assembled something wrong.

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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Nievo » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:42 pm

thumpar wrote:
Nievo wrote:
Haynes and Sons Guns wrote:Those are back ordered approx 3-4 weeks, and you have to order 4 to get them for $67.5 shipped plus tax and if you are buying from a retailer your ffl should be charging tax. I have them in stock for $75 and tax, buy more than 1 and i'll knock $5 off the total. Take one home tonight, no shipping, no transfer fee.
$75 + tax isn't a horrible price locally.

Lol.....at paying tax for a FFL transfer.
If the FFL transfer is from a dealer they charge tax. If it is private party then there is no tax charged.
You might be correct on that, I have only transferred through private FFL's.

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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Torakan » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:55 pm

toddSpokane wrote:Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
Ummm, no.

I have shot many thousands of rounds thru issue M16's and M-4's and never had a lower heat up enough to make it to hot to touch. A lower heating up enough to cause a malfunction is a non issue and indicates you don't really understand the weapon system. Also, My AR's using DPMS, Superior, Aero, and Oly lowers function just as well as my 3 Colt AR's firing a normal semi auto rate of fire. By the way, you do know what MILSPEC means right? By definition if a lower isn't configured and milled for selective fire it cant be MILSPEC so unless the lower is a M16 or M4 lower it cant really be MILSPEC.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Bravery » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:33 pm

Torakan wrote:
toddSpokane wrote:Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
Ummm, no.

I have shot many thousands of rounds thru issue M16's and M-4's and never had a lower heat up enough to make it to hot to touch. A lower heating up enough to cause a malfunction is a non issue and indicates you don't really understand the weapon system. Also, My AR's using DPMS, Superior, Aero, and Oly lowers function just as well as my 3 Colt AR's firing a normal semi auto rate of fire. By the way, you do know what MILSPEC means right? By definition if a lower isn't configured and milled for selective fire it cant be MILSPEC so unless the lower is a M16 or M4 lower it cant really be MILSPEC.
By definition that's also incorrect. At least in my industry mil-spec means whatever part I'm dealing with has been made to the specifications/tolerances put forth by the DOD for interchangeability. However in ARs I would assume that it means it has been made to be within the same manufacturing tolerances as an m16 or an m4not necessarily meaning the type or function of that specific part.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by thumpar » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:06 pm

Bravey wrote:
Torakan wrote:
toddSpokane wrote:Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
Ummm, no.

I have shot many thousands of rounds thru issue M16's and M-4's and never had a lower heat up enough to make it to hot to touch. A lower heating up enough to cause a malfunction is a non issue and indicates you don't really understand the weapon system. Also, My AR's using DPMS, Superior, Aero, and Oly lowers function just as well as my 3 Colt AR's firing a normal semi auto rate of fire. By the way, you do know what MILSPEC means right? By definition if a lower isn't configured and milled for selective fire it cant be MILSPEC so unless the lower is a M16 or M4 lower it cant really be MILSPEC.
By definition that's also incorrect. At least in my industry mil-spec means whatever part I'm dealing with has been made to the specifications/tolerances put forth by the DOD for interchangeability. However in ARs I would assume that it means it has been made to be within the same manufacturing tolerances as an m16 or an m4not necessarily meaning the type or function of that specific part.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Airon » Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:56 pm

Nievo wrote:
toddSpokane wrote:Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
Are you kidding me? Show me the tests to back that up. If the lower heats up that much and malfunctions due to extended firing then you assembled something wrong.
It's true. LMT, Colt, and BCM forge their lowers in the heart of a dying star making them far superior to all other aluminum.

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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Straight Shooter » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:55 pm

toddSpokane wrote:Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
Respectfully, I'm very interested in hearing/seeing the facts/data that back up this statement.
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Re: Looking for advice on lowers

Post by Nievo » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:32 pm

Airon wrote:
Nievo wrote:
toddSpokane wrote:Just to clarify, milspec needs nothing. It is used by everyone. A LMT, colt, or bravo company will work after heating up due to extended firing. An Anderson, dpms, etc. Will not. They may all look the same sitting in a store, but they function differently in the real world. You get what you pay for in the AR market.
Are you kidding me? Show me the tests to back that up. If the lower heats up that much and malfunctions due to extended firing then you assembled something wrong.
It's true. LMT, Colt, and BCM forge their lowers in the heart of a dying star making them far superior to all other aluminum.
Lol.....sorry, forgot about their super unobtanium-aluminum makeup.

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