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Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by Jimbo302 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:08 pm

I was recently eyeballing EAA's Tanfoglio Witness 1911P. It is a standard 1911 with a few mods, and a polymer frame.
Well, it's a steel reinforced poly frame , that supposedly has no plastic to steel contact.

It looked pretty interesting, Anyone have any experience with one?
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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by The Mechanic » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:16 pm

I see no reason to have produced this monstrosity.

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by BC38 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:52 pm

The Mechanic wrote:I see no reason to have produced this monstrosity.

I'm crying on the inside a little bit.
A bit of a traditionalist when it comes to the 1911?
The only reason I can see for it is to shave a pound (or more) off the carry weight.
A fully loaded all metal 1911 is a pretty hefty chunk of steel to try to conceal.
Regardless of a person's opinion - good, bad, or indifferent - you have to admit, it is somewhat of a novel idea.
Not quite sure why someone hasn't done it before, but it's the first poly 1911 I can recall seeing....
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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by RLHas » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:15 pm

The Mechanic wrote:I see no reason to have produced this monstrosity.

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by RLHas » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:17 pm

BC38 wrote:
The Mechanic wrote:I see no reason to have produced this monstrosity.

I'm crying on the inside a little bit.
A bit of a traditionalist when it comes to the 1911?
The only reason I can see for it is to shave a pound (or more) off the carry weight.
A fully loaded all metal 1911 is a pretty hefty chunk of steel to try to conceal.
Regardless of a person's opinion - good, bad, or indifferent - you have to admit, it is somewhat of a novel idea.
Not quite sure why someone hasn't done it before, but it's the first poly 1911 I can recall seeing....
The STI 2011 is a composite partial frame pistol which is kinda cool because if money is no object you can go from a doublestack to a single stack using the same slide assembly. Great for the competitipors!
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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by BC38 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:39 pm

RLHas wrote:
BC38 wrote:
The Mechanic wrote:I see no reason to have produced this monstrosity.

I'm crying on the inside a little bit.
A bit of a traditionalist when it comes to the 1911?
The only reason I can see for it is to shave a pound (or more) off the carry weight.
A fully loaded all metal 1911 is a pretty hefty chunk of steel to try to conceal.
Regardless of a person's opinion - good, bad, or indifferent - you have to admit, it is somewhat of a novel idea.
Not quite sure why someone hasn't done it before, but it's the first poly 1911 I can recall seeing....
The STI 2011 is a composite partial frame pistol which is kinda cool because if money is no object you can go from a doublestack to a single stack using the same slide assembly. Great for the competitipors!
Worked over a few of 'em for guys.
That STI 2011 looks like about the same idea as the EAA the OP posted....
It doesn't seem like a bad concept - if you can get past the break with tradition - and can handle the recoil of the 45 acp out of a light weight poly frame.
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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by Masonryman » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:40 pm

Both BUL M5 and the Kimber BP TEN come to mind as having poly frames.
IIRC Kimber used the BUL frame.

I bought an BUL M5 from another SGT member, great 1911 style firearm.



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Post by CSMRET » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:00 pm

Masonryman wrote:Both BUL M5 and the Kimber BP TEN come to mind as having poly frames.
IIRC Kimber used the BUL frame.

I bought an BUL M5 from another SGT member, great 1911 style firearm.
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I have a poly framed double stack (BUL frame marked Springfield) It weighs 25 oz w/o mag-- the same as my alloy framed Para P-12. It's an old kit gun I picked up - It was on a Para P-12 alloy frame- prob built in the early '90's when the kits were available. Recoil?? :?: To me doesn't seem any brisker than any other .45..
Google Poly 1911 frames for an interesting history... (also Charles Daly used BUL frames before they went belly up)
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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by BC38 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:23 pm

Sounds like the concept has some merit - at least enough that the new EAA offering has some competition. I'm kinda surprised that the poly frame only saves about a half a pound in weight. Still 2 pounds vs 2-1/2 pounds is 20% weight savings.

At <$600 it looks like one of the most affordable poly 45s. Not surprising since their other guns are generally on the lower cost end of the scale.

Personally I don't own any 45's - I'm more of a DA revolver guy and when I do go with a bottom feeder, I strongly prefer DA/SA guns over the standard SA designs like the 1911.
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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by RLHas » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:04 pm

CSMRET wrote:
Masonryman wrote:Both BUL M5 and the Kimber BP TEN come to mind as having poly frames.
IIRC Kimber used the BUL frame.

I bought an BUL M5 from another SGT member, great 1911 style firearm.
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I have a poly framed double stack (BUL frame marked Springfield) It weighs 25 oz w/o mag-- the same as my alloy framed Para P-12. It's an old kit gun I picked up - It was on a Para P-12 alloy frame- prob built in the early '90's when the kits were available. Recoil?? :?: To me doesn't seem any brisker than any other .45..
Google Poly 1911 frames for an interesting history... (also Charles Daly used BUL frames before they went belly up)
(notice the Stainless insert) 8-)

note: din't resize the photos-open in another window to see gun completely - has ported barrel

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by Jimbo302 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:05 am

I was turned off more by the poly frame revolvers out now than these. Either way, I'm always interested in more options and the traditional models will always be there.


Csmret, very interesting pistol.
BC38 wrote: At <$600 it looks like one of the most affordable poly 45s. Not surprising since their other guns are generally on the lower cost end of the scale.
cost is the reason I was looking at it, I ran across one for sale for $430.

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by Bob R » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:32 pm

I don't care who you are, a polymer 1911 just shouldn't exist....it was pushing it when they went to an alloy frame!!!

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Post by The Mechanic » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:53 pm

Bob R wrote:I don't care who you are, a polymer 1911 just shouldn't exist....it was pushing it when they went to an alloy frame!!!

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by RLHas » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:27 am

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by bambam72 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:48 am

I would have to shoot one.. Seems legit.. But golly isn't it the weight that makes the 1911 so awesome?? Just my two cents worth..

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by Gleng » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:34 pm

This followed me home yesterday. It's an ATI with a polymer frame. Fired 60 rounds through it today and it functioned fine with 230 ball, 200 LSWC - IPSC load, 220 gr LRN and Remington 230 JHP. It shot fairly well, could use the trigger lightened up. It supposedly uses Glock sights and the plate on top of the slide is for mounting a red dot type sight. For the money I am pleasantly surprised.

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by RLHas » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:43 am

Gleng wrote:This followed me home yesterday. It's an ATI with a polymer frame. Fired 60 rounds through it today and it functioned fine with 230 ball, 200 LSWC - IPSC load, 220 gr LRN and Remington 230 JHP. It shot fairly well, could use the trigger lightened up. It supposedly uses Glock sights and the plate on top of the slide is for mounting a red dot type sight. For the money I am pleasantly surprised.

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by Gleng » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:40 am

Here's a link to their web page. I didn't pay that much, for sure! I see according to this that the frame inserts are aluminum. I know I don't plan on putting thousands of rounds through it, just wanted something lighter than a regular 1911 for when I ride my motorcycle and 1911 style grips frames point correctly for me. Looks as though it also has a limited lifetime warranty!
http://www.americantactical.us/5179/detail.html

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Re: Plastic fantastic.... 1911

Post by scrappy » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:47 am

BC38 wrote:
The Mechanic wrote:I see no reason to have produced this monstrosity.

I'm crying on the inside a little bit.
A bit of a traditionalist when it comes to the 1911?
The only reason I can see for it is to shave a pound (or more) off the carry weight.
A fully loaded all metal 1911 is a pretty hefty chunk of steel to try to conceal.
Regardless of a person's opinion - good, bad, or indifferent - you have to admit, it is somewhat of a novel idea.
Not quite sure why someone hasn't done it before, but it's the first poly 1911 I can recall seeing....
Psst, Bob, FYI, when we drove to Olympia my full size all steel 1911 was on me the whole time.....lol! Just giving ya grief buddy!
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