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Gen 5 glocks released

Post by Flawlessfoose » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:16 pm

Looks like there here!
I think they made some nice updates

Anyway here is a link to the article with pics and technical specs

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/glock- ... otos-wait/

And another article

https://www.google.com/amp/www.thefirea ... -gen5/amp/
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Re: Gen 5 glocks released

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Post by Haynes and Sons Guns » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:44 am

Shot them at the release at Sharp Shooters last night, they are nice, but I'll stick with a Gen 3, not worth the almost $600 price tag.
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Re: Gen 5 glocks released

Post by Flawlessfoose » Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:29 am

Really they didn't make any major changes, and in all honesty that is what I like. They kinda refined what was already there.
Every one is kinda dogging on them for not coming out with something totally new. Why the hell would they? They already have the gun that everyone measures there's up to!

They supposedly made them more reliable.
They made them more accurate.
They removed the finger grooves.
They made the trigger better.
They flared the mag well slightly
They added a ambidextrous slide stop/release.
You have the option on stock glock sight or amriglows.
There's some other things I'm missing, but I guess I'm the only one kinda excited to get one.
I'll probably get the G17.
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Post by Haynes and Sons Guns » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:31 am

For years Glock has been talking about how wonderful and reliable their polygonal rifling was, now they have abandoned that. Unless you are a lefty I don't see how the small changes justify a price bump. The trigger was NOT better, I didn't like it at all.
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Re: Gen 5 glocks released

Post by Flawlessfoose » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:25 pm

Haynes and Sons Guns wrote:For years Glock has been talking about how wonderful and reliable their polygonal rifling was, now they have abandoned that. Unless you are a lefty I don't see how the small changes justify a price bump. The trigger was NOT better, I didn't like it at all.
If they ditched polygonal rifling for something better or more accuracy, then that's a no Brainerd lol.

And no finger groves is big plus. Sure you can grind them off, but who wants to risk screwing that up, or paying someone to do that.
It's a nice touch. Can't wait to try one out.
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Re: Gen 5 glocks released

Post by lyons » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:58 pm

Haynes and Sons Guns wrote:For years Glock has been talking about how wonderful and reliable their polygonal rifling was, now they have abandoned that. Unless you are a lefty I don't see how the small changes justify a price bump. The trigger was NOT better, I didn't like it at all.
Prices are going to be very close to a Gen 3 or Gen 4 in price. Any price gouges are from individual dealers/stores, which is to be expected with anything new.

Glock is smart to stick to what they know works. They have the had the market since the 80's and continue to hold it. Their business model is to make small changes, T&E them, and then institute them on a larger scale.

Peoples dislikes of Glock and personal preference.

I'm on a list for a 19 and I'm not a 9 mm guy, but I want one for my collection.
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Post by 10mmshooter » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:12 pm

I got a 19

Will post a review after I get a chance to go shoot it

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Post by Flawlessfoose » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:17 pm

10mmshooter wrote:I got a 19

Will post a review after I get a chance to go shoot it
Whaaat, how'd you get that so early. I thought they'd be in stores the 30th.
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MAP is $569, MSRP is $599
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Re: Gen 5 glocks released

Post by 10mmshooter » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:56 pm

Flawlessfoose wrote:
10mmshooter wrote:I got a 19

Will post a review after I get a chance to go shoot it
Whaaat, how'd you get that so early. I thought they'd be in stores the 30th.
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Yes, got mine at 12:01 :o

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Post by lyons » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:16 am

Haynes and Sons Guns wrote:MAP is $569, MSRP is $599

Looking at Glocks Annual magazine from this year a Glock 17 MSRP is $599 and a Glock 17 Gen 4 MSRP is $649.
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Post by Drewbanski » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:06 am

So, basically, they are incorporating things other manufacturers have had on their firearms for 10 plus years already, or custom shops have been adding to Gen3/Gen4 Glocks for the last 5-10+ years and calling it "innovation". While I am all for the removal of the finger grooves and flare on the magazine well; which I think is a great improvement over the Gen3/Gen4 guns, the rest of the changes I see as being put together by committee. Orange follower in the magazine and ambi slide stop/release? Great for competition... not a big deal for the average shooter. And I say that as a south paw. I have never used an ambidextrous slide stop... perhaps due to having been trained to "sling shot" the slide forward from slide lock.
While they are posting a $599 MSRP, I imagine they'll sell for about $50 less once supply starts to meet demand. So, I imagine a Gen5 Glock will remain within the "affordable" $500-$600 window. If you add up the cost of a Gen3/Gen4 Glock and then toss in the removal of finger grooves, etc. you're looking at about $700 in total. So, in a way I would assume just going ahead and getting a Gen5 is cheaper than picking up an older generation Glock...
That said, however, I don't feel that the changes live up to the hype I have seen online and in the shooting circles I am a part of. So, personally, for me the Gen 5 is a mixed bag. They still don't have an ambidextrous magazine release (which I do use) nor do they have front slide serrations (which I also use) something which S&W, FNH, and others already offer for a lower price.

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Post by Flawlessfoose » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:04 am

Actually it is fully ambi. Here is the quote from the article
"A left side slide release makes this latest iteration fully ambidextrous, as it retains the Gen4 reversible magazine release."
Also forgot to mention the finish is different to, it's called nDLC finish for barrel and slide. Whatever that is, but they say it's alot darker. The gen 4s seem to have the worst finish of any glocks
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They did say the finish was harder than most sharpening stones, it was the hardest finish they have ever had.
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Post by lyons » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:20 am

I don't think the ambi slide stop lever is meant to be used to improve lefty's releasing the slide (considering the part is not designed or trained to be used as a slide release), its so lefty's have an easier time locking the slide to the rear during manipulations.

I just got my Gen 5 19. Trigger is awesome, feels smoother and lighter. Finish does look darker (time will tell if its more durable). The ambi slide stop lever make running the gun left handed nice. The flared out mag well and under cut trigger guard are nice. Looking inside the gun the barrel, guide rod, and some of the springs are noticeably different, looking more lie the 42 and 43.

All and all Im happy with it. Looking forward to the 21 coming out.
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Post by Flawlessfoose » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:58 pm

lyons wrote:I don't think the ambi slide stop lever is meant to be used to improve lefty's releasing the slide (considering the part is not designed or trained to be used as a slide release), its so lefty's have an easier time locking the slide to the rear during manipulations.

I just got my Gen 5 19. Trigger is awesome, feels smoother and lighter. Finish does look darker (time will tell if its more durable). The ambi slide stop lever make running the gun left handed nice. The flared out mag well and under cut trigger guard are nice. Looking inside the gun the barrel, guide rod, and some of the springs are noticeably different, looking more lie the 42 and 43.

All and all Im happy with it. Looking forward to the 21 coming out.
Yeah they changed some things internally. I know that the frames are no longer 3 pin, and now are 2 pin like your 43 and 42 you mentioned.
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Post by 10mmshooter » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:09 am

So far, I love my Gen5 19.

Pros: Trigger way better than Gen4, no finger grooves!, slide finish is outstanding!

Cons: Factor sight are meh, replaced them with Viking Tactical. I can't stand right side slide stop, will be waiting for aftermarket fix, or will just cut it off.

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Post by Flawlessfoose » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:24 am

10mmshooter wrote:So far, I love my Gen5 19.

Pros: Trigger way better than Gen4, no finger grooves!, slide finish is outstanding!

Cons: Factor sight are meh, replaced them with Viking Tactical. I can't stand right side slide stop, will be waiting for aftermarket fix, or will just cut it off.
That's good to hear about the trigger.
I'm with you on the ambi slide stop, I would replace it of grind it off too! Im like that about ambi saftey on 1911s, I don't like them.
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Post by 40pirate » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:52 pm

Handled the G19.5 today, don't like the front cut out. Too bad slides are interchangeable as I understand.
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